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Unicorn's conversions (1st Jun - beasty BSB)

Postby unicorn » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:59 pm

I start conversion of WR to make them look like centaurs. I planned to convert 2 units, each of 6; at this moment I have juts one in some better WIP. I planned one unit in "charge!" moment, other (this one) is warbanner unit in some "happy" situation.

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Hope you will like it, and hope I will make it till the end. Any tips or suggestions are very welcomed :D
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Re: WIP WR conversion

Postby Beithir Seun » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:13 am

So far, your work looks excellent! What parts have you used?
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Re: WIP WR conversion

Postby unicorn » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:41 am

Beithir Seun wrote:So far, your work looks excellent! What parts have you used?
The horse parts are welfish horses of course :) The bodys are from ungors; the left (spears and horn) hands too. Banner is welfish banner on spear with removed blade.
Left hands are both ungor (shield) and gor (weapon) hands with removed things from them.

Right now I am finishing coversion of the left hands for banner bearer (gor hand with welfish GG sword) and musician (gor hand with some-kind-of-pilum thing :) )
Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
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BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: WIP WR conversion

Postby Lothlore » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:54 pm

Nice! :thumbsup:
I've actually made the same conversions. The only thing you need to worry about is the heads. They don't fit quite right on the beastmen necks. A few of mine have the head sort of looking downward, giving the impression that the centaurs are even larger. :smirk: Expect that you might need green stuff there too.
I take it that you're of like mind as I am and that this conversion is absolutely wicked. I figure it fits fluff-wise too. Wild, bloodthirsty, S4 hunters They should have made wild riders loof ike centaurs from the start :nod:
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Re: WIP WR conversion

Postby unicorn » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:06 pm

Lothlore wrote:Nice! :thumbsup:
I've actually made the same conversions. The only thing you need to worry about is the heads. They don't fit quite right on the beastmen necks. A few of mine have the head sort of looking downward, giving the impression that the centaurs are even larger. :smirk: Expect that you might need green stuff there too.
I already know it, some GS must replace the non-existing neck :D
Right now I am working on my 2nd WR unit and I am experimenting with horned heads using tup-like horns from TK spure. Just now it seems this can work.

BTW most funny thing about this conversions is that at the end, this centaurs are CHEAPER that original WRs :D
Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
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BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
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Re: WIP WR conversion

Postby unicorn » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:53 pm

From the time of my 1st post, I was able to advance with my conversion a little. So this is it, and I will be glad for any tips, comments or ideas: :D

Musician and standardist get their (converted ;) ) left hands:
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I made testing horned head and attached it to one of WRs; at the end I am satisfied with the final look and whole unit will got heads like this (BTW this head is just pinned now, so there is visible gap between neck and body :) ):
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I create basic torsos for the 2nd unit, so this models are somethuing like pre-phase to my 1st posted pics :) :
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When I was working with GS last time, I cut (and mix) it too much; plus after I was done with stuffing, I was not ready to go to sleep already. So I decide I will create "leaf" decorations to all horses from one of my GR units, to make them look "unique" and differ them from other units. At the end, this 2 horses are ready and 3rd model is WIP ;) :
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BTW, I wish to convert saddles on WRs into some kind of light armor they are supposed to wear; but I have no idea how to do it. What kind of armor will be ok? Any ideas, please, anyone? :cry:
Thanx :D
Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
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BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: WIP WR conversion (13th March updated)

Postby Beithir Seun » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:06 pm

Looking good so far Unicorn. The horned heads look great, so it'll be good to see the finished model :)

As for sculpting light armour on the centaurs, you could give them some sort of barding over the back of the horse body, possibly made of the same leaf shapes you sculpted on the Glade Rider horses? I assume you want to leave the torsos of the centaurs uncovered so that could be the easiest way to do it...
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Re: WIP WR conversion (13th March updated)

Postby unicorn » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:16 pm

Beithir Seun wrote:Looking good so far Unicorn. The horned heads look great, so it'll be good to see the finished model :)

Thanx a lot, Beithir. Besides the neck and armor, I am thinking about making them loincloths. I done some testing and it seems pretty good, I think I will go for it after I will end with other 5 heads :)
Or do you mean painted? My painting skill is not that good :( And my wife don't wish to paint this models, because I convert them as I like them and not as SHE asked me to do it :D

Beithir Seun wrote:As for sculpting light armour on the centaurs, you could give them some sort of barding over the back of the horse body, possibly made of the same leaf shapes you sculpted on the Glade Rider horses? I assume you want to leave the torsos of the centaurs uncovered so that could be the easiest way to do it...

Great, GREAT, GREAT idea! :eek: Thanx, you are SO great! :cry: Wahoooo! :wasted:

* cool down, cool down, cool down even more *

Ok, I am ok. No need of doctor. Thanx a lot for your idea, Beithir :thumbsup:

:D
Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
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BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: WIP WR conversion (13th March updated)

Postby Beithir Seun » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:39 pm

unicorn wrote:Great, GREAT, GREAT idea! :eek: Thanx, you are SO great! :cry: Wahoooo! :wasted:

* cool down, cool down, cool down even more *

Ok, I am ok. No need of doctor. Thanx a lot for your idea, Beithir :thumbsup:

:D



Wow :confused: No one has been that enthusiastic about one of my idea for....well, ever! Glad I could help!

As for the 'finished model' I meant when you've finished sculpting them. I'm waiting to steal you ideas for my own centaur Wild Riders that have been sitting for about a year without me starting them :D
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Re: WIP WR conversion (13th March updated)

Postby YourMumRang » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:54 pm

Nice! They are exactly the same as mine except mine don't have horns.

So far I think they're the best ones I've seen. Especially when compared to all the god-awful Dryad-centaurs around *vomit*...

...even if I do blow my own horn!
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Re: Unicorn's conversions

Postby unicorn » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:18 am

Hallo, :)
I am here again with my new things.

1st thing is I finished "leafing" my GR unit; so this is their final look. Now I must think about something different from ither ones ;)
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This are my nearly-finished dryads (well, just leafs needs to be painted now). This unit is very, very slightly "converted"; 5 out of 8 dryads are hitted by arrows, who are stabbed in their wooden bodies. Nothing special, just some testing...
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Oh well, and because Beithir come with the idea and then he say that he wish to see completed model, I spend yesterdays and todays evenings woring on leaf barding for my WR. I am not sure if this is final look or not, this decisiob will take some time; but I really like the look of leaf barding.
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BTW I will not do planned loincloths for my WRs. Testing ones seems to look good, but I am not able to model one which will look good and which will fit to their buckles at the some time. I experimente with "leaf" loincloths, but that thing looks just simply stupid. Like adam in eden ;)
Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
Painted
BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (17th March updated)

Postby Ryikko » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:43 pm

this is turning out to be a really great conversion!
I like the horns on the test model, it looks nice and feral, though not overly chaos-y either.
I'm sorry that i can't come up with ideas on how to cover the space in front, seeing as you're against sculpting loincloths, but i'm sure someone has an idea. :roll:
Anyways, its turning out great, and i'm eager to see the final result
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (17th March updated)

Postby Beithir Seun » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:35 pm

Great work Unicorn! The Glade Rider horses have turned out really well, and the leaf barding for the Wild Riders has turned out far better than I thought possible! Excellent work!
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (17th March updated)

Postby unicorn » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:18 pm

Heh, thanx a lot :)

I hope I will finish whole unit during this weekend and I hope I will do the testing figure for the 2nd unit as well (I am trying ot give every single unit in my army oroginal look). Plus I got an idea how to do that loincloths, so if everything will turned ok, you will see them here too. Plus I wish to finish painting that dryads too

After that I planned to start working on my next covnersion - WhRs ;)
Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
Painted
BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (21st March minor updated)

Postby unicorn » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:32 pm

This are testing photos of loincloths. What do you think, will this looks good on final model or is it not a good idea?

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Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
Painted
BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Unicorn's conversions (24th March updated - final WR look)

Postby unicorn » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:25 pm

After some consultations with one profesional sculptor of minis, I decide to leave an idea of loincloths. Instead of them, I will give my WRs frontal (again leaf :) ) barding, similar to that on their backs. He suggested to shape it like Empire barding is (so the spikes of leaves will be pointed out from the horse body), but I was not satisfied with the final look of this; on other hand I think that in hands of someone skillfull this can looks good.

So, this is final look for one unit of my WRs. Hope you will like it...

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Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
Painted
BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (24st March updated - final WR look)

Postby Beithir Seun » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:38 pm

I think they look excellent. I much prefer the leaf barding to the loincloth idea. Great work again Unicorn!
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Unicorn's conversions (25th March updated - quick pic questi

Postby unicorn » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:29 pm

I am nearly to finish 1st unit of WRs, and I am slowly starting work on the 2nd unit.

In my army, i am trying to visually differ each unit from other, as they are just different bands who choose to follow my main character Ikku at his path to protect Athen Loren from any danger; and they just come from their homes when they hear his call for another battle. Because of this, I am trying to have every single unit at least slightly different from others, no mather if in terms of painting (that is basic) or in their look. The outcome should be the "guerilla" army of many different voluntary and different groups; but groups from the same enviroment and with the same basic theme (autumn). Because of this, I start thinkiíng about how to visualisate my 2nd WR unit.

Now what I am asking... I think that one possibility is to give them different horns on their heads. Right now I am about to put heads on my 1st unit, so I create some heads with possible different horns and try them. This one seems to be best of them for me, and I wish to hear your oppinions how you like it, and what do you think about this horns? Are the previous horns significanlty better? Did theny look OK, or are they too "chaos-like"? Etc.

Thanx for help :)

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Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
Painted
BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (25th March - quick pic question)

Postby Conar » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:58 pm

Hey

A while ago Magnolia fan posted pics up of his awesomely converted army
and the horns he had used are the same as u r using
just help

http://www.asrai.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7952&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (25th March - quick pic question)

Postby EC was here » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:19 pm

I really like the leaf work on your steeds and wild riders. Very well done.
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (25th March - quick pic question)

Postby Beithir Seun » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:21 am

I think the two different sets of horns are great! They're a subtle difference but a very effective one
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Unicorn's conversions (2nd April - final WR unit No1)

Postby unicorn » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:38 pm

I finished whole unit of my WRs and I was going to start my work on 2nd unit; but I found myself a little tired from all that leaf work :) So for now, I skip the 2nd unit and I start my works on Helm of Hunt for my Alter and - mainly - I start testing conversion for my warhawk raiders. At this moment, whole conversion is turning pretty good, but there is still SO much work to do before I can show you ;) So for now, finished unit of WRs is all new I have...

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Unicorn's conversions (updated 1st Jun)
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BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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Re: Unicorn's conversions (2nd April - final WR unit No1)

Postby Beithir Seun » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:46 pm

I really like the WR unit. You've done an excellent job Unicorn and I can't wait until the second unit is ready! The Warhawks and Alter sound promising as well so I look forward to seeing them too :)
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Re: WIP WR conversion

Postby nightsrage » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:40 am

unicorn wrote:
Beithir Seun wrote:So far, your work looks excellent! What parts have you used?
The horse parts are welfish horses of course :) The bodys are from ungors; the left (spears and horn) hands too. Banner is welfish banner on spear with removed blade.
Left hands are both ungor (shield) and gor (weapon) hands with removed things from them.

Right now I am finishing coversion of the left hands for banner bearer (gor hand with welfish GG sword) and musician (gor hand with some-kind-of-pilum thing :) )


Forgive my ignorance but "welfish" horses are glade rider horses or?
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Re: WIP WR conversion

Postby unicorn » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:03 am

nightsrage wrote:Forgive my ignorance but "welfish" horses are glade rider horses or?

Horses we got for our WE riders. GR, WR, mounted noble. Generally - yes, GR horses :)
Beithir Seun wrote:I really like the WR unit. You've done an excellent job Unicorn and I can't wait until the second unit is ready!
Thanx a lot! The wroks on 2nd unit goes slowly forward ;)
Beithir Seun wrote:The Warhawks and Alter sound promising as well so I look forward to seeing them too
I am slightly stuck with the warhawks feets. I was not able to get my hands over propper models to create some "stamp" form for them, so I must model that with my own - pretty awkward - hands... Takes SO much time :(
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BSB, mounted noble, WD noble, Branchie, Alter, Treeman, 12 WR, 10 WD, 10 GR, 10 WW, 5 Dryads, 5 WhR, 6 Tk, Altar of Khaine
Finished
Treeman, 10 WD, dragon lord, Alter, 9 WhR, 5 GR, DE sin, OK Butcher, Beast heroes x5
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