Asrai (adj)?

by **Yak** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:03 am

After some speculation, I though I'd as (slightly tongue in cheek) what the adjective for things pertaining to the Asrai is. Now quite prossibly the correct answer is "Asrai", but that is a bit dull for me. Recently I've been favouring "Asrian", or more light heartedly "Asraili".

Equally I'm having trouble with adjectivising "wood elves". "Wood elvish" and "wood elven" both seem a bit clumsy to me, so I'm favouring "arbelven" or "arbelvish", from the Latin root, as they seem prettier words.
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by **Eldacar** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:12 am

An Asrai. The Asrai.
An Asur. The Asur.

Neither of these require any spelling changes to be acceptable forms of saying/spelling the Eltharin name. So your original supposition is correct: the original words are the correct ones for describing a single Wood Elf or the entire subrace of Asrai.

As for 'Wood Elves', that's how it always has been in WHFB. 'Wood Elvish' is a human term for what the Asrai call Fan-Eltharin, because even though they're humans and have all the problems that comes with that, if you listen hard, there are subtle differences that the human ear can discern. 'Wood Elven' is used when describing something made by a Wood Elf or something that belongs to/suits an Asrai.

by **Yak** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:16 am

Eldacar wrote:An Asrai. The Asrai.
An Asur. The Asur.

I was more looking for an adjective, not the plural noun.

As for 'Wood Elves', that's how it always has been in WHFB. 'Wood Elvish' is a human term for what the Asrai call Fan-Eltharin, because even though they're humans and have all the problems that comes with that, if you listen hard, there are subtle differences that the human ear can discern. 'Wood Elven' is used when describing something made by a Wood Elf or something that belongs to/suits an Asrai.

As I said, slightly tongue in cheek, but seeing as we're not using the 'real' terms, I feel vindicated in making up my own term. Arbelvish it is.

by **Eldacar** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:37 pm

I was more looking for an adjective, not the plural noun.

"It's an Asrai item" would be the correct term, but most use "It's a Wood Elven item" instead, since it sounds more flowing and correct (though, of course, neither is technically any more correct than the other).

As I said, slightly tongue in cheek, but seeing as we're not using the 'real' terms, I feel vindicated in making up my own term. Arbelvish it is.

Note to self: Ridicule term when seen.

by **Amarel** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:47 pm

Eldacar wrote:Note to self: Ridicule term when seen.

What a very arbelvish attitude to have.

by **Eldacar** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:58 pm

What a very arbelvish attitude to have.

by **GreatGrandMaster** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:25 pm

I like Woodies (plural)
and Woody (adj 'thats a woody item')
It also has amusing connotations.....

by **a ghost** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:02 pm

GreatGrandMaster wrote:It also has amusing connotations.....

LOL, just what I need. My wife teasing me about "compensating" because I'm fielding a WR Noble with a magic spear thats riding a Great Stag......

I guess I could call him 'The Great Woody'.....

by **Cirenivel** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:31 am

Come on, how about Silvelven, AsriANi or Arborelven.

by **Hyarion** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:14 pm

The whole Arb- Arbor- prefix thing just doesn't work.

You may want to try Taur-

by **Schmeag** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:46 pm

You may want to try Taur-

Now that brings Beastmen to mind. We can't have that.

I think Eldacar is right. Asrai is the correct term to use for noun, adjective and plural. It seems natural to me, in any case - rather like substituting Wood Elven with Asrai in a sentence.

So we would have:

That statue is very reminiscent of Wood Elven architecture.
That statue is very reminiscent of Asrai architecture.

by **Soteks Prophet** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:35 pm

how about ponty eared. it works for eldar and highelves and dark elves..

by **Johannes|** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:11 pm

*moved to OT*

I agree with Schmeag BTW, it's just Asrai

by **Naggie** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:31 pm

The way I've done it in my editor days:

"An asrai item"
"The Asrai people"
"An asrai" (person)

"An asuryan item"
"The Asur people"
"An asur"

"A druchii item"
"The Druchii people"
"A druchii"

The third rule is a bit tricky. But a nice comparison is when we talk about a man, we write man with lower case m. But when we talk about Mankind, it's upper case M. The same goes for Asrai and asrai (and all other races).

Nagathi
The Sacred Sentinel

by **Soteks Prophet** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:14 pm

so you could have Joe one of the Asrai who is an asrai. Is that right ?

by **Naggie** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:19 pm

Soteks Prophet wrote:so you could have Joe one of the Asrai who is an asrai. Is that right ?

Pretty much, yep. And it's there the hard parts of editing came in. It looks wierd, but it is grammatically correct...

Nagathi
The Sacred Sentinel

by **Eldacar** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:06 am

In the GW books, you'd be hard pressed (well, I was on a brief skim through some of the ones I own) to find a place where they use "Asrai", "Asur", "Druchii", "Elves" and such with a lower case letter instead of a capital at the beginning of the word. I generally tend to run with that, and change it to "Wood Elf", "Dark Elf" or "High Elf" so it doesn't look as strange.

Moved to Meadow of Tales forum, 26/05/07 ~ Schmeag

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