And through that, you are implying that we should be capable of understanding them.
And through that, I am implying that we control whether they can be understood or not.
Either they're arrogant humans and thus are understandable, or they're fey, mystical and alien beings who are not.
Those "mystical" beings have been created by us (as a human race).
You're responding to something I said - who the hell am I supposed to think you're talking to?
Well, the point of these posts should be to provide comments and criticism to Nagathi's story; some of these points would be relevant to him.
you'll need to attach some form of a rating by which you can judge the character in question.
Words don't amount to statistics. You can call her "experienced", but not in numbers.
The problem here (as I see it) is that there always will be a level of "faceless guards".
but your position seems to go towards every elf being named, every elf having an expression, every elf having a different reaction, and so on.
Not that much, and not so you could generalise them as a crowd. Certainly not to the extent that you get an overabundance of character development (Jordan's milking it for all its got, anyway), but not to the extent that you get "faceless" guards. For example, I found it odd for Nagathi to describe the "crowd" as all frightened. Before you decide to respond to this one, I have included an analysis for you below. Appreciate it .
And I'm getting a very strong implication from you that you view hasty decisions as poor ones for those reasons.
And you are correct. Doesn't stop me from making them though.
If it was, then it should have been mentioned. But I have gained the impression that they have been serving Aeliaria for some time now.
I haven't - which could be either poor wording or a miscommunication on either your side or my side.
Right. I'll just go through it and point out the phrases and words that gave me all my impressions:
"[Seretha's] tip of her experienced longbow was barely seen near her side"
One could assume that this means that Seretha is quite experienced as a warrior herself.
Seretha knew this information was important enough to disturb her superior, even if she was busy in deep meditation.
She knew better than to argue about matters like these.
This implies that Seretha knows her commander well - thus they have been together for a while.
With the twisted feelings of both good and bad, Seretha left her general alone.
This (and Aeliaria's admonishment) appears to give Aeliaria and Seretha a mother-daughter relationship.
This feud, this strife, this battle had been raging for many centuries; a never-ending conflict between the sentinels of the forest guardians, and the invading beasts and centigors and other followers of Chaos. This was this army’s foremost duty. The Sacred Sentinels had but one simple mission; to guard the forest and remove any hostile trespassers.
Unless Aeliaria decided to somehow induct several bands into her force, their force has seen quite a bit of battle.
The glade guards sharpened their arrowheads and brushed their feathers. The riding scouts tightened their bows and the wardancers were either stretching and twisting their bodies in unnatural positions or simply meditating and connecting with the gods.
The "crowd" aren't so generalised here. But... Read on.
They all knew this was what they had been sent out to do, and they had trained for centuries for this sacred task.
This belies her force's discipline and training. No raw recruits there for you, although this changes somewhat later.
All of the riders nodded in agreement. They had been a part of Aeliaria’s force for long enough to understand that she always knew best.
Definitely no recruits there.
force fully assembled together with some new recruits
There are new recruits... but only "some". Certainly not enough to justify the "shots of fright" from the "crowd". We can assume that by "fully", Nagathi means the entire force of Sacred Sentinels.
In the complete silence that were, everyone had heard the concern. A shot of fright was sent through everyone’s hearts, but Aeliaria, the Forest Mistress, calmly turned to her force and spoke.
And now we have it. Nagathi mentions "everyone". He also mentions "shot of fright". By "everyone", he has grouped those experienced riders, the wardancers, the glade guard (and so on) and finally "some recruits".
I was saying beforehand that I had a problem with the generalisation of the force. That last bit I included is what has been generalised. I don't ask for detailed individual descriptions; what I do suggest is that the descriptions of the "crowd" should include variance.
I never said it couldn't be the other way around. Where are you getting the impression that I did?
You didn't. But you failed to mention that it could; you said perhaps this, perhaps that - but not perhaps not this, perhaps not that. When you start saying "perhaps" en masse, that's when things start getting out of hand. The thing is, perhaps aliens will come and kill us. Perhaps I will eat breakfast in five years. Perhaps the Sydney Harbour Bridge will become the next terrorist target. But then, perhaps not. That, my friend, is the realm of unsubstantiated philosophy.
You might want to read up on some of the background concerning the Brightwood itself, I think - as it is, the forest isn't entirely destroyed, though the decay is setting in (it's probably where a large majority of misinterpretations are coming from). And given that there is the Wildwood in Athel Loren, I don't really think that "sounds like home" qualifies, since even in Loren itself, there are many varying levels of "happiness" to be found.
This may yet be Nagathi's wording, but he mentioned "or simply a few miles deeper into Loren". Note the word "simply". By saying that, he is implying that there have been no drastic changes in the environment, with a few exceptions. I'm not sure how much of the forest amounts to "a few miles" (if the forest can be measured that way), but his use of "simply" seems to mean that not much untoward has happened to the environment compared to that which they left.
They're only a by-product of the thread, which should really be split off into its own somewhere in OT if any of the admins know how to split posts in the database
I guess so. But those by-products seem to fluctuate dangerously in size at times.
Well, I hope this helps Nagathi, if you bothered to read the post. And you have Eldacar to thank for it. As for you Eldacar, I hope this clears up those misunderstandings rather than compounding them.