Blocking cannon balls

[Moose123]

Okay now this may seem dumb but, can dryads block cannon shots for my treeman or treekin. I have tried this but my friend just aimed right over my dryads onto the treekin behind them. It's was all uphill so he couldn't see my treekin through my dryads but he fired his cannon at the treekin as if the dryads weren't even there. I'm rambling aren't I. Now is this even allowed, because if it is then I could only hide my treemen or other monsters behind building that can't be shot through.

I really need a clarification on this.

[Noght]

Good question. I play you must see the Target and the "spot" you are going to bounce from. Most people don't. He could legally "pick" a Dryad model in true Line of Sight to land on and hope for the bounce. Run your Treekin 3x1 or 4x1 so you only ever lose one as a defense.

Noght

[Ravenlord]

This what the rulebook have to say about it:
Little red book, page 112.

Nominate a point within the war machine´s line of sight and that is not outside the cannon´s maximum range. Your target does not have to be an enemy model; it can be a point on the ground if you wish.

So it have to be within line of sight. As a general rule, units, friend or foe, block line of sight - even skirmishers. Now, if the the target is bigger than the blocking unit then BS-shooting doesn´t get blocked but instead get a cover-modifier. And if the target is elavated (i.e on higher ground) from the blocking unit it doesn´t get any protection at all.

[Moose123]

So he can just target the back of my blocking unit and bounce it onto the unit behind even if he doesn't have LOS to the back unit. Did I get it right.

[Dogmar]

From what I understand he can target any spot on the table the cannon can see (as per the True Line of Sight rules in the rulebook). I doubt that he can see the flat ground right behind your dryads. Generally he might be able to see behind the unit depending on the angle of the cannon and the like but the way you explained the situation something tells me that he may not do it. He'd have to target a spot right in front of your dryads and hope for the cannonball to bounce through them.

[Ravenlord]

As Dogmar said, he cannot place the cannonball directly behind the dryads if he cannot trace a line of sight to that point. He can, however, place it infront of them and hope for a long bounce.

[Noght]

As Dogmar said, he cannot place the cannonball directly behind the dryads if he cannot trace a line of sight to that point. He can, however, place it infront of them and hope for a long bounce.

Or the rules say any Model you can see. So if he can see the Dryad he can "nominate" that spot...i.e. "I'm shooting at that model right there, center of his base".

Noght

[Ravenlord]

Yes, of course...

However, the front rank almost always block line of sight for and to the second rank.

[Noght]

Yes, of course...

However, the front rank almost always block line of sight for and to the second rank.

Not with True Line of Sight and Skirmish formation. It's really hard to hide a target from a Cannon these days. My gripe is when the Cannon fires through his own troops at a target he clearly doesn't have LOS to, happens all the time, drives me crazy. (As an Empire player, I'm not that guy BTW). Or when they shoot at a target on the back side of a hill (that they can't see) by targeting a spot the can see on the front side of the hill, bah.

I play my cannons with the "must see the landing spot" rule and fire lanes (no intervening troops). But I'm not that guy while some people are.

Noght

[Ravenlord]

Not accounting for skirmishers, yes. I overlooked that. In our community we actually go by the base and troop type in order to trace line of sight. It´s less problematic.